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Bill McClusky
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Bill McClusky - 7/26/2012 9:31:32 PM
   
Lets talk Tires !!
Which do you prefer - super singles or duals and why ?
Please include your info about load type and weights and regions that you haul in.

Mike McHorse
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Truckster - 7/27/2012 10:27:41 AM
   
RE:Lets talk Tires !!
I know that wide based tires mounted on the tandem axles can reduce a trucks GCW by up to 400 lbs when compared to dual tires mounted on aluminum rims. However, I'm curiouse of what drivers are seeing for fuel ecomomy gains after switching over to wide based tires? Michelin claims that a 3% reduction in rolling resistance can improve fuel ecomomy by 1%. And, that a truck and trailer with wide based tires on all axle positions can reduce rolling resistance by 30%. That's a whopping 10% fuel efficiency gain. Is that realistic?

Bill McClusky
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Bill McClusky - 7/30/2012 4:19:41 PM
   
RE:Lets talk Tires !!
It really depends on what tires you are comparing the super singles to. If you are already running low rolling resistance duals and switching just the drive tires to super singles you can see on average about 2% increase in fuel economy. If you are running high rolling resistance duals and steer tires and switch to a low rolling resistance steer tire and super singles you can see as much as 10% improvement in fuel economy.

Henry Albert
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Henry.Albert - 7/31/2012 4:37:36 PM
   
RE:Lets talk Tires !!
I prefer Wide Base singles I run anywhere in the lower 48 states . Most of my routes carry me from the Carolinas to Texas however I can go anywhere else at any time. My normal GVW is around 65,000 and normally without any empty miles. I like the fuel savings, handling and the better ride from reducing the unsprung weight of each axle by 160 to 180 lbs. The shocks control the axle and not the truck so thats a lot of weight it does not need to control when the tire contacts a bump on the road.

Just a little side note... There is a big difference between a true super single and the more modern wide base single tire we use today. About the only place I see super singles anymore is on the steer axles of dump trucks. When they tried "super singles in the 80's it did not fare that well in the field.

Linda Caffee
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Linda.caffee - 8/1/2012 1:40:36 PM
   
RE:Lets talk Tires !!
We run Michelin wide base singles on our straight truck and have for the past 5 years. We have a pusher axle which has about an 1" clearance and also has wide base singles.

Once we put the wide base singles on the truck we added the Pressure Pro system and have had it alert us once that we had a tire going low. This saved us from the possibility of blowing out the tire.

Henry Albert
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Henry.Albert - 8/1/2012 9:06:22 PM
   
RE:Lets talk Tires !!
Great tip on the tire monitor system.
I am currently using a product called Ride On tire protection system. This product is a gell that goes inside your tire to seal puntures up to a qaurter inch..
I also carry a airhose and a tire plug kit so I am not stuck along the side of the road. This helps eliminate some of the chance of being stranded with a flat wide base single tire.

How have you liked the Pressure Pro tire monitor? I am currently looking into purchasing a tire monitor so any feed back would be appreciated.

Bill McClusky
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Bill McClusky - 8/2/2012 8:55:24 AM
   
RE:Lets talk Tires !!
We all know that not every type of tire is suitable for every type of service duty. What do consider to be the Pros and Cons of the type of tire you run vs other options? Please include type of serviced duty.

Henry Albert
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Henry.Albert - 8/2/2012 9:50:55 AM
   
RE:Lets talk Tires !!
My service duty is over the highway long haul service.

Wide Base Tire are suitable for regular highway service .They save weight, increase fuel mileage and improve ride by reducing unsprung weight. The only real draw back is if you have a failure you are stuck right where you sit and don't have the ability to "Limp" to a safe location to repair the tire without damaging the rim. When I say "limp" its not to the next truck stop but to the next SAFE place to pull out of harms way.

There are tires designed for high scrub and low traction off road conditions.
Each tire is constucted to meet the demands of the service it is to be placed in.

For example a high scrub urban steer tire looks like it would last along time due to it having 22/ 32nds of tread compared to a premium over the road steer tire at 16 to 18 /32nds of tread. If the high scrub urban steer tire is used in over the high way long haul service it will pick up irregular wear due to its rubber, compound, deeper tread and lack of a decoupling grove at the edge of the tie.

Deep lug off road lug tire's will offer high traction off road but would be loud and wear rapidly in line haul service.

It is very important to look at the tires intended purpose by looking online at each MFG's tire selection to pick out a tire designed for the conditions you operate in the most.All to often I see people buy what ever the tire dealer has a special buy on at the time. You might save money in the short run buying the SPECIAL of the week but in the long run it will cost you more.

Linda Caffee
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Linda.caffee - 8/3/2012 5:15:39 AM
   
RE:Lets talk Tires !!
We have had the Pressure Pro system on two trucks and it has saved us one blown tire. It is easy to quickly look at the pressure of each of our tires from the cab of the truck.

We set the air pressure of the tires and our tolerances of when an alarm and light comes on. Very good system.

Henry Albert
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Henry.Albert - 8/3/2012 6:42:59 AM
   
RE:Lets talk Tires !!
Linda,

It sounds like if this system save's one tire it would already pay for itself. If you add the down time and whatever other damage a blown tire causes a tire monitor would be even a greater return on investment!!!

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